On Sports Fix with Jason Pine for 15th September 2025, the All Blacks suffered a record defeat on Saturday night going down 43-10 against the Springboks in Wellington.

There has been discussion around the captaincy and leadership of the team following the defeat, so Piney caught up with a former All Blacks captain Reuben Thorne to hear his thoughts on the captain's role in the team.

Piney speaks on the All Blacks' record defeat to the Springboks.

And Piney and NZ Herald sports journalist Elijah Fa'afiu talk about the All Blacks and the Warriors' defeats on Saturday night.

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