They are two Wellington organisations who have just spent millions of dollars on new projects - so how did they get them off the ground? 

In the Wellington City Mission's case, last year they opened Whakamaru - with a new cafe and safe transitional housing for the city's most vulnerable - and today they also launched a brand new catering business with profits going straight back to the mission. 

For Circa Theatre, the Wellington institution has opened a new bar and restaurant, Chouchou. 

To discuss the projects, and the challenges facing both organisations, Nick was joined by Wellington City Missioner Rev. Murray Edridge and Circa Theatre's general manager Caroline Armstrong. 

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