Environmental groups are concerned that 15 years won’t be long enough for us as a nation to wean ourselves as off our reliance on coal.

2037 is when the Government wants to ban the burning of the fossil fuel but players from some of our biggest industries rely on it and the coal mining industry says cheap alternatives aren’t yet available.

Patrick Phelps of advocacy group for the coal industry Minerals West Coast, joined Simon Barnett and Tyler Adams (in for James Daniels for a fascinating chat.

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