06 November 2022: Palliative care specialist Sue Marsden talks about how meeting Dr Elisabeth Kübler-Ross who coined the five stages of grief, shifted her perspective on how to be with someone who is dying. 

Sue talks to Hamish Williams and psychotherapist Kyle MacDonald about her book Thank you Elizabeth, on our concepts of death and dying and the self-awareness necessary to understand the true needs someone going through the process of dying.

With thanks to NZ on Air.

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