Winston Peters is in no way surprised to see National leader Simon Bridges face an uprising from within.
Bridges has confirmed two of his colleagues who remain unknown, are challenging he and deputy Paula Bennett's leadership.
If Bridges is rolled as leader, Peters is not ruling out being part of a National government and says Bridges was wrong to rule him out.
Peters adds Todd Muller, who is rumoured to be one of the challengers, is a "genuine product", but would not comment further if he would make a good leader.
Meanwhile, the deputy Prime Minister is heading back to court over his leaked pension details.
Last month it was found Peters' privacy was deliberately breached ahead of the 2017 general election, to publicly embarrass him and cause harm.
Peters' claim against former Government ministers Bennett, Anne Tolley and others failed as he could not establish who was responsible.
Bennett and Tolley both had their legal costs covered by the Government.
Peters claims he knows who leaked his pension details.
He told Mike Hosking it is not just about him.
"It's about the privacy of everybody in this country, or the principle of it, to have their privacy breached.
"It's not right and a society that allows that would be a very bleak society."