Tough talks lie ahead for the Trade Minister who's heading to World Trade Organisation meeting in Abu Dhabi. 

Todd McClay will be vice-chairing the meeting which will discuss topics including agricultural trade rules, e-commerce, and fishery subsidies.  

He told Mike Hosking that he's optimistic there will be gains in some areas. 

McClay says we'll be banging our drum for fairness and a better deal for our exporters.  

He says New Zealand exporters benefit from a common set of enforceable rules to rely upon and that's what we'll be pushing for. 

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