The OJ Simpson case continues to captivate people more than 25 years on from the famous not guilty verdict.
And one man who was at the forefront of it was former footballer and LAPD officer, Ron Shipp.
Ron was friends with OJ for 16 years, but testified against him at his trial.
Mr Shipp is part of a new documentary - OJ and Nicole: An American Tragedy which airs tonight at 9.25pm on Sky's new channel Investigation Discovery.
He joined Mike Hosking to talk about that famous trial.