Primary school teachers may have less ground to stand on at the bargaining table.  

They began negotiations yesterday for the first time since losing their pay equity claim in the May Budget. 

The Public Service Minister says there is a public mantra that teachers deserve to be paid more.  

But Judith Collins told Mike Hosking it ignores the facts.  

She says primary school teachers can earn $115 thousand including allowances, after eight years experience. 

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