Jacinda Ardern is leading a trade delegation to Australia this week, where she'll meet again with Anthony Albanese.

Australia New Zealand Leadership Forum Co-Chair, Greg Lowe, says we're friendly rivals with Australia, but that doesn't stop us from competing with each other.

He told Mike Hosking the intention of the forum is to focus on how we can take on world markets together, in a way that benefits both sides of the Tasman.

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