Two Mongrel Mob members have been sentenced for their senior role in a sophisticated meth ring in the Waikato.

The issue is with their sentences - James Smith and Richard Heller were given a starting point of 12 years and four months and 10 years and six months respectively.

But by the time there were reductions for guilty pleas and significant reductions for their dysfunctional childhoods they each got around five years in prison.

President of the Criminal Bar Association Fiona Guy Kidd QC joins me now.

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