Follow the podcast on
David Seymour says Act's more concerned about the Government's popularity, than National's.
The latest political poll - the first taken since Chris Luxon became leader of the National Party - shows an immediate lift for the party.
It's up 6.4 points, back over 30 percent support.
That support comes mostly at the expense of Act, which is down 5.3 points to just over 10 percent support.
But David Seymour told Mike Yardley there are more worrying results from the poll than theirs.
“After two weeks of overwhelmingly positive coverage for the Nats, the Labour/Green block has actually gone up slightly for the first time in a long time.”