A prediction that the COVID-19 pandemic will change our world for a very long time.
We're now into the second week of a planned month-long lockdown.
Economist Shamubeel Eaqub told Kerre McIvor that things won't go back to normal straight away.
"The pandemic is our Great Depression or war."
"The tectonic shifts that we're seeing in our economy, values and society are going to be significant."
Eaqub says young people will play a major role in rebuilding New Zealand after the lockdown.