The threat by Google to pull out of Australia has been a hot topic of discussion recently. 

The back-story is about whether Google should pay for news.

Is it possible that life without Google, could actually be better than life with it?

This is being put forward by a media expert out of a Melbourne University, who says Google has been hoovering up our personal data for decades and it is time for a change.

Jordan Carter is the CEO of Internet New Zealand, he joined Kate Hawkesby to share his thoughts on the issue.

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