John MacDonald was joined this morning by Chris Hipkins for their regular catchup. 

Labour's leader is warning the Government it shouldn't can a grant for first home buyers.  

An inquiry led by former PM Sir Bill English has found Kainga Ora needs to find significant savings to be financially viable.  

The Housing Minister says every programme the state housing provider runs will be checked for cost value.  

Chris Bishop won't rule out dropping first home buyer grants. 

Chris Hipkins told John MacDonald that it would be the wrong move. 

He says the scheme is a modest contribution to people being able to buy a first home and is not a big chunk of money in the budget process. 

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• Govt set to scrap first-home buyers grant, many Kiwis left with "no chance" in the market