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ACT Leader, David Seymour discusses 'triangle' talks to keep all parties in the loop

Publish Date
Mon, 6 Nov 2023, 10:15am

ACT Leader, David Seymour discusses 'triangle' talks to keep all parties in the loop

Publish Date
Mon, 6 Nov 2023, 10:15am

The ACT party leader, David Seymour has insisted coalition talks will present as a triangle, with ACT and NZ First directly contacting each other despite prior miscommunication between the two.

National and Act now need New Zealand First to form a Government after National lost two seats in the special vote counts.

Seymour told The Mike Hosking Breakfast he had initially tried to call NZ First leader, Winston Peters but couldn't get through to him, so left him a text instead.

Peters, meanwhile had claimed to media he received the text but thought it was a prank. 

The fiasco between the two party leaders led Hosking to brandish Peters as playing "silly-buggers", a suggestion that Seymour played down. 

"Ah, you can say that but we have to work together for about one thousand days, which is about three years, and who knows beyond that," the ACT leader said.

 

"So we've got to work out the best relationship possible."

Incoming Prime Minister, Christopher Luxon confirmed to The Mike Hosking Breakfast he will be interacting with each leader of the other two parties separately, before bringing all three of them together to finalise details. 

He said the approach was a practical one to ensure he was best able to understand their parties' issues and priorities. 

Seymour, however, said these would not be the only interactions occurring during coalition talks. 

"Remember, we're [Seymour and Peters] attempting to talk to each other and, notwithstanding [the phone dilemma], I'm sure it will happen," he said.

"It will be a triangle, I think that's the healthiest way possible, and I think the politics of life is partly around relationships and solving problems, the better relationships you have the more problems you can solve on average."

Seymour was asked if Luxon had a right to be bullish, to which he said all three parties had a common belief that New Zealand was in trouble and they had the solutions for change. 

"[We're] coming from different policy positions, sure, but we all know the ones who voted for us," he said. 

"They voted because they think we can deliver. That's a good reason for Luxon and anyone else to get on and do it."

Talking coalition demands, Seymour had brought to his attention the speculation from former NZ First MP, Andrew Williams that Peters would expect a handful of titles and positions including deputy Prime Minister, a knighthood and Foreign Affairs Minister. 

"It does sound fairly ambitious," said Seymour. 

"But there will be a negotiation...all the stuff we're talking about now will be dwarfed by opening up the books and seeing where the previous Government left us fiscally."

Seymour said when it came down to it, titles and positions would become less important once the Government began to get to grips with issues including how many children aren't in school and the next generation's ability to buy a home. 

Circling back to the speculation, he explained he didn't know Williams very well and had only spoken to him a handful of times. 

"But there's a big if at the start of your question if Andrew Williams is right, and I'm not gonna go into the discussion assuming he is."

However, Seymour did note that everyone has a trade-off, he's always been one who believes that policies for people will trump positions for politicians. 

He said many in Government will state their belief that New Zealand needs better public policy and if it requires giving up their privacy and weekends, then they'll ensure they get it. 

"Anyone who thinks it's a glamorous or desirable life being a politician with some title in New Zealand needs to broaden their horizons in my humble opinion."

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