National's former Mr Fixit and Minister for Everything is relieved to be away from the negotiation table this time round.
Steven Joyce still has faith Chris Luxon can form a stable Government with NZ First in tow- but what role will he give Winston?
Joyce joined the Country's Jamie Mackay to discuss.
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- ACT Leader, David Seymour discusses 'triangle' talks to keep all parties in the loop
- Winston Peters wants 'a knighthood, deputy Prime Minister and Treasury' - former NZ First MP
- Live: 'We can't all get what we want' - Winston Peters wants urgent coalition negotiations; Luxon keen to 'get cracking' on new Govt
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