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So was the controversial Ashes dismissal against the "spirit of cricket", or wasn't it?
As far as Australia is concerned, Jonny Bairstow was out of his crease while the ball was live.
As the English have it, Bairstow thought it was the end of the over and Alex Carey shouldn't have stumped him.
Sportstalk host Jason Pine spoke to former Black Cap Craig Cumming about what he thought.
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