Former All Blacks great Conrad Smith says while losses like this Rugby World Cup hurt, the best thing the players can do is remember there’s bigger things in life.

Conrad Smith was part of the All Blacks team to win the 2011 and 2015 World Cups, but had his share of loses as a player.

He told Simon and Phil there’s always learnings after World Cups, but it’s hard to understand the pressure of a World Cup unless you’re in it.

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