Kim Jong Un appears to be having his cake and eating it too.

The North Korean leader has been in talks with the South's Moon Jae-in, agreeing to remove all threats of war from the Korean Peninsula.

But Paul Caroll of the anti-nuclear threat organisation N Square told Kate Hawkesby the devil is in the detail.

"These talks help Kim Jong Un gain credibility as a leader, but without him actually making any significant progress on ending the nuclear programme."

LISTEN ABOVE AS PAUL CAROLL SPEAKS TO KATE HAWKESBY